Tom Ricks, a New America Foundation national security program fellow, explains to Anne-Marie Slaughter why he doesn’t foresee an end in sight for violence and war in the Middle East. What he does see, however, is a redrawing of national boundaries there. Russell Shorto, author of Amsterdam: A History of the World’s Most Liberal City, talks with Slaughter and New America Foundation and Zócalo editorial director Andrés Martinez about what the struggle for individual rights in the Netherlands can teach us in America.

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